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Alpha> 3 is far more than enough but one can defenetly play with 4 or 5 Gé> where has your lovely flah animation disappeared?? didn't take the time to save it to my 'puter

Hey Alpha I'll have to think well about the topic, before doing this première ! The fusion has already started Here is the rant I've posted on BCC, it took me a while to write that shit (and I'm not sure it is readable !!) [start unreadable rant ] so to say it quicker, and according to Gé animation: - move the middle of the staff on a triangle, - one revolution of the staff by triangle side degrees of freedom to control the damned thing: - orientation of the triangle (vs gravity) - speed of rota…

thanks for the detailed answer, Gé I haven't been playing much with these recently. I had more play with fingerspin-less staves [lexicon]antispin[/lexicon], ie, more like what Meg's doing in her doubles video, or what Simian has been investigating. btw> I've just posted a long boring rant on BCC about [lexicon]antispin[/lexicon] flowa & fingerspin.. check it out

hey Gé, these drawing and flash animation looks wicked I'm not sure to have understood everything about the colours .. Really like this one The one with a pentacle instead of a triangle, looks great too .. but I didn't get anything. These new complicated patterns seems mostly applicable to single staff at low speed, .. what do you think? Any trial yet? gruss Olive

great week-end looking fwd to see more of you german spinners coming round